Offering Testimony on the Decline of the EpA

Last week, a friend reminded me that the public hearing for the EpA’s Endangerment Finding was coming up and there was still time to speak. I had written about this just a month back but registration wasn’t open then and I almost forgot. But in the nick of time I signed up and was issued a slot along with hundreds of other organizational representatives and concerned citizens. In fact, there were so many interested in speaking that the testimonies started Tuesday morning and went all the way until Friday, with all testimonies being limited to 2.5 minutes max (strictly enforced!).

I joined for my two hour block Wednesday morning (and Bart Everson joined the following day) and we both presented arguments to not repeal the Endangerment Finding. I’ll share those both below in a moment, but I’ll admit, I heard far more powerful statements than my own. I was truly awed by the passion of the climate scientists, nurses, clean air advocates, ministers, and many others who spoke. The best and most hopeful part was that in the two hours I listened, not one person spoke in support of repealing the Endangerment Finding. That doesn’t mean EpA won’t do away with it anyway (and there are already legal efforts proceeding to fight the basis for their action) but for a moment it made me feel less alone.

One presenter from California Interfaith Power & Light went and reminded the EpA representatives listening that “we are of the Earth” Even I didn’t go that route, trying to speak in language EPA might get through their heads. Instead, I quoted, with tongue firmly in cheek, a businessman I hope all of them recognized and made it about the economy, stupid, which is the stated focus of nearly all of the Trump Administration’s choices. Bart framed his comment around climate change being an existential issue, particularly for the Gulf Coast, which could be devastated if we don’t stabilize the climate soon. Anyway, enough context, below are my and Bart’s comments (well, with a bit more context there). And while it’s too late for you to speak publicly, it’s not too late for you to write a comment. The comment period is open until September 22nd. I strongly encourage you to write a comment here.

The webinar, while working to eviscerate the EPA, was impressively well managed. (Screenshot from webinar)

Public Comment by Erik Assadourian

I’m Erik Assadourian, the Director of the Gaian Way and I’d like to start with a quote from a prominent business leader: “Business is business! And business must grow regardless of crummies in tummies, you know.”

Most of you will recognize that infamous business mantra, spoken by Dr. Seuss’s The Onceler. This is a perfect representation of the short-termism embedded in the EPA’s proposal to stop regulating climate change and its detrimental effects on health and well-being.

It is an act of extreme naivety. Business, and the continued success of America’s economy depends on climate stability; it requires the coasts to remain unflooded; the woodlands to remain unburned; and the agricultural lands to remain productive. But as we destabilize the climate, the future of the U.S. and the world are imperiled.

The Club of Rome revealed this reality over 50 years ago with The Limits to Growth. James Hansen and thousands of climate scientists since have revealed that one of the most significant limits to Earth’s ability to provide for human society is the global carbon sink Earth’s atmosphere and oceans provide.

Denying reality—and intentionally creating research that cherry-picks the science to justify the removal of climate considerations from the responsibility of the Environmental Protection Agency is partisan politics at its worst. Republicans and Democrats will be equally affected by the horrors that uncontrolled climate change will bring.

To undermine the Endangerment Finding is a breach of government responsibility, one that will not lead to an improved future for even special interests like energy producers and car companies. This is true even in the short-term as in the aftermath of this repeal, states will inevitably create new and confusing state-wide vehicle CO2 emissions rules increasing businesses’ costs and further stifling innovation.

And in the long-term, if America’s agricultural lands, forests, coasts, and cities are crippled by climate effects, so too will America’s economy be crippled. I fear that just like the Onceler, those who supported this action will “throughout the years, while their buildings have fallen apart, they’ll worry about it with all their heart.” But by then, it will be far too late. Thus I urge the EPA to not go down this foolish road and uphold the Endangerment Finding.

An illustration of the EpA chopping its own effectiveness to care for the environment.

Contextualizing Bart’s Comment

From Bart: Everyone knows what a “senior moment” is, but have you ever heard of someone having a “Katrina moment”? I’m old enough to have both, and that’s what happened on Thursday. To be fair, it’s not that I forgot that I’d signed up to make a public comment to the EPA, but I did the time-zone conversion wrong. If the government hadn’t sent me a friendly reminder via text message, I might have missed my slot.

I wasn’t particularly nervous about speaking to the EPA, I’ve addressed governmental panels before, and in this case I had my script all written out. Just 250 words, two and a half minutes, no sweat.

What I didn’t anticipate was how choked up I got. As soon as I started speaking about the floods of 2005, my eyes welled up with tears, making it hard to read my script, and my throat seemed to close up, making it hard to speak. But I got through it all right.

Normally I might have been embarrassed about such a public display of emotion, but honestly I was glad for it. I heard a lot of other comments from a lot of other people, all universally urging the EPA to retain the Endangerment Finding and do their job; they all made lots of really powerful, logical, insightful points, backed with evidence. But at this point, I wonder if logic or evidence has anything to do with it. Perhaps the only thing that will sway the decision-makers is a sense of moral shame. If seeing a grown man cry engendered a little shame in their hearts, so much the better, I suppose.

It’s been 20 years since Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, since then, every county in the region has experienced at least three major climate-related disasters every year. (Image from NOAA)

Public Comment by Bart Everson

Thank you for this chance to speak. My name is Bart Everson. I’m representing the Greater New Orleans Interfaith Climate Coalition, a nonpartisan, grassroots, volunteer-driven network of churches and mosques and synagogues and temples and just plain people who hold this Living Earth as sacred. As we approach the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, I don’t need to remind you that the Greater New Orleans area is particularly vulnerable to extreme weather and rising sea levels, both of which are associated with climate change.

While there are multiple factors behind the changing climate, a primary driver is the emission of greenhouse gases from our power plants, agricultural practices, vehicles and transportation, landfills, and so on. To be blunt, the continued emission of carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, and methane poses an existential threat to our region of south Louisiana and indeed the entire Gulf Coast. I’m not a legal expert, but I believe that’s what the Endangerment Finding of 2009 is all about. And now y’all want to repeal it? In our view, the Environmental Protection Agency wasn’t doing enough to regulate emissions in the first place, and now y’all are talking about doing less? We find that outrageous, and I stand before you angry, discouraged, and heartbroken. On a scale of one to ten, our opposition to this move is one thousand. Locally, we’re doing our part to encourage the resilience of our communities, to consume less, to reduce our footprint. We need you to do your part. Thank you.


Thanks for reading these two comments, now please go out and write your own! And if you’d like, add them to the comments below this essay as well for all to read!

Go with Gaia,

Erik and Bart

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4 Responses

  1. ken ingham

    Thanks Erik and Bart for your superb leadership along the Gaian Way. I was inspired to add the following short comment:
    “I join those who oppose this action with some trepidation, fearing that my name will end up on a list of tree huggers for the Homeland Security thugs to go after. But I am a brave person who cares deeply about the impact of the fossil fuel economy on the health of the living planet, the One Evolving Earth Organism to which I belong and on whom I depend for my very existence. Every uptick in the global temperature has its consequences, and every species that falls into extinction constitutes an incredible loss to our community. Please do what’s right for the eco-nomy.”

  2. Karen Elias

    Thanks to Eric and Bart for your bravery in voicing your concerns! I’m taking heart from the fact tht seemingly every single speaker was opposed to rescinding the Endangerment finding. My Better Path group is circulating a MoveOn petition. I’ll paste it in and give the link. Thanks for signing!

    https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/do-not-rescind-the-endangerment-finding-on-greenhouse-gas-emissions?share=91a754ce-ac69-4bf7-8907-400705d49c86&source=s.fwd&utm_medium=&utm_source=s.fwd

    To: EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin
    Do Not Rescind the Endangerment Finding on Greenhouse Gas Emissions
    KF
    Campaign created by
    Karen Feridun

    Administrator Zeldin, you have called your proposed recission of the Endangerment Finding “a dagger into the heart of the climate change religion.” Climate change is not a religion to be believed; it is a matter of science based on fact. And the Endangerment Finding is a valid assessment based on scientific evidence that six Greenhouse Gas (GHG) emissions are, indeed, endangering “the public health and welfare of current and future generations.” It underpins the regulation of emissions from vehicles, power plants, oil and gas operations, and other industries under the Clean Air Act. Do not rescind this critically important protection.

    Why is this important?
    The EPA scheduled a two-day hearing on its proposed recission of the Endangerment Finding. So many people signed up to testify that they had to add two days and created a waiting list when those slots were filled. The testimony was overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the Endangerment Finding. Scientists, health professionals, state government representatives, environmental and health advocates testified along side individuals who shared their stories about how climate change-fueled natural disasters have already endangered them or how concerned they are for future generations.

    The public can still submit written comments through September 22. This petition will be submitted as a comment on the docket.

    But, as has been the case with our other recent petitions, it’s also important for individuals to submit their own comments. Earlier this month, the Trump administration removed a tool on Regulations.gov that allowed organizations to collect and submit comments in bulk. It is Trump’s latest attempt to silence us. We have never relied on that tool. We have created EZ forms that we upload individually on your behalf.

    Our EZ form to comment on the Endangerment Finding gives you the option to tell your climate story – your experiences, your concerns. The personal stories people shared when they testified were compelling. We urge you to add yours. Please sign our petition and take the additional step of submitting a comment using our EZ form here.

  3. Erik Assadourian

    Wow, this comment from California’s Secretary for Environmental Protection is powerful:

    “The Trump Administration wants you to believe that this is a battle about gas-powered cars versus electric ones. That’s a lie. California is fighting for lives. Decades upon decades of science show that climate-warming gases produced by cars, trucks, power plants and gas facilities are killing people. The proof is clear—more smog, more asthma, and more emergency room visits. Instead of standing up for everyday people and businesses, Trump’s EPA is cannibalizing itself to dodge its responsibility to protect health, safety and the economy. There’s nothing patriotic about abandoning Americans.”

    From a statement made 9/22/25: https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/carb-submits-scathing-critique-u-s-epas-illegal-effort-overturn-endangerment-finding

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